にしたところで /としたところで
🃏 Flashcard
にしたところで /としたところで
ni shita tokoro de / to shita tokoro de
Tap to reveal usage
even if; even supposing that ~
N1
Tap to test your recall · +10 XP
📊 Pattern Stats
JLPT Level
N1
Advanced · Literary, rhetorical & rare forms
Reading
ni shita tokoro de / to shita tokoro de
Post ID
51312
Patterns today
0
0 / 10 daily goal
📝 Usage Notes
even if; even supposing that ~
📖 How to use it
Expresses 'even if' or 'even supposing that', often followed by a negative or skeptical outcome.
Attaches to
Attach to the plain past form of a verb (した, 行った), or to a noun/な-adjective stem + である (e.g., 先生であるにしたところで). For verbs, use にしたところで when the verb is in past tense (e.g., 言ったにしたところで). For the としたところで variant, it attaches to the same forms but is less common.
This pattern conveys the idea that even if you grant a certain hypothetical situation, the result does not change or is not positive. It often implies that the condition is not enough to alter the conclusion, and is frequently used with negative outcomes or expressions of doubt. It is formal and primarily appears in written Japanese, such as essays, reports, or speeches, rather than everyday conversation.
彼が来たにしたところで、問題は解決しないだろう。
Kare ga kita ni shita tokoro de, mondai wa kaiketsu shinai darou.
Even if he comes, the problem probably won't be solved.
お金があったにしたところで、幸福になれるとは限らない。
Okane ga atta ni shita tokoro de, koufuku ni nareru to wa kagiranai.
Even if you had money, it doesn't mean you could be happy.
彼女が謝ったにしたところで、許す気にはなれない。
Kanojo ga ayamatta ni shita tokoro de, yurusu ki ni wa narenai.
Even if she apologized, I wouldn't feel like forgiving her.
Not としたって / にしても
としたって is the casual spoken equivalent, while にしても is less formal and can also mean 'even considering'. にしたところで is more formal and often used in writing, with a stronger sense of 'supposing that'.
Register
Formal and mostly used in written Japanese; in conversation, use にしても or としたって instead.
🎯 Quick Quiz
What does this grammar pattern mean or do?
にしたところで /としたところで
📚 How to Master This Pattern
Say It Aloud
Press Hear it and repeat にしたところで /としたところで three times. Feel the rhythm — grammar patterns have a natural flow.
Flip Before Reading
Always try to recall the usage before flipping the card. Struggle = learning. Every failed recall makes the next one stick harder.
Write Two Sentences
Compose two original sentences using にしたところで /としたところで. One about yourself, one about something you see right now.
Spaced Review
Save this pattern and revisit at 10 min, 1 day, 3 days. Production (writing) beats recognition for grammar.
🔗 More JLPT N1 Patterns
❓ Frequently Asked Questions
What does the grammar pattern にしたところで /としたところで mean?
▼
Even if; even supposing that ~
What JLPT level is にしたところで /としたところで?
▼
Nihoner currently groups this pattern under JLPT N1 — Advanced · Literary, rhetorical & rare forms. Use the level label as study guidance rather than a prediction of what will appear on an exam.
How do you use にしたところで /としたところで in a sentence?
▼
Attach にしたところで /としたところで (ni shita tokoro de / to shita tokoro de) to the appropriate verb or noun form as described in the usage notes. Then try writing two original sentences — one about yourself and one about something around you.
Is にしたところで /としたところで formal or casual Japanese?
▼
にしたところで /としたところで is used in formal or written contexts. You will see it mainly in written texts, news, business Japanese and academic contexts.
How can I remember にしたところで /としたところで long-term?
▼
Use the flashcard on this page for active recall — see the pattern, reconstruct the usage from memory, then flip. Follow with the 4-choice quiz to distinguish it from similar patterns. Review later the same day and again over the following days. Writing original sentences can help you practise using the pattern in context.